Fast Answer for Busy Riders ⚡ (TL;DR)
The ZERO 8 edges out the JOYOR F5S+ as the more rounded scooter, mainly thanks to its noticeably plusher suspension and slightly stronger real-world performance, especially on rougher city streets and hills. It feels more like a "proper vehicle" and less like an overclocked rental.
The JOYOR F5S+ still makes sense if your priorities are low weight, easy carrying and squeezing every bit of range out of a compact, budget-friendly commuter; it's the better choice for frequent stairs, tight storage spaces and multi-modal trips. If you want the most comfortable and confidence-inspiring ride, lean ZERO 8. If your life involves more lifting than blasting, lean JOYOR.
But the story is a lot more nuanced than a simple winner-loser label, so it's worth diving into how they really feel on the road and where each one quietly cuts corners to hit its price.
Stick around - the details will probably save you from buying the wrong "almost perfect" scooter.
Electric scooters like the JOYOR F5S+ and ZERO 8 are the modern equivalent of city bicycles: workhorses meant to drag you through traffic, potholes and questionable weather with minimal drama. Both are small, foldable, single-motor commuters that promise "real" performance without turning your hallway into a scooter garage.
I've put serious kilometres on both - enough early-morning commutes and late-night rides to know exactly where the brochures are optimistic and where the forum fanboys are, let's say, generous. On paper they look incredibly similar: same power class, similar battery class, same mixed tyre concept, same rear drum brake philosophy. In practice, they feel surprisingly different.
The JOYOR F5S+ is for riders who live on stairs and trains: the ultralight, compact "briefcase scooter" that tries very hard to give you grown-up performance without grown-up weight. The ZERO 8 is for riders who secretly care more about ride quality and shove than about saving those extra 2 kg on the way up the stairs.
If you're torn between them, this comparison will walk you through how they really behave in the wild - and where each one starts to show its compromises.
Who Are These For, and Why Compare Them?
These two sit in the same broad category: mid-priced, mid-power city commuters meant to replace short car trips and most public transport. They aim squarely at the rider who's grown out of rental scooters and entry-level toys, but doesn't want to drag a 30 kg monster into the lift.
Both offer a rear motor in the "properly brisk but not terrifying" class, a 48 V system for decent torque, real suspension and a battery large enough that you don't panic every time you see a gentle incline. Price-wise, they live in the same neighbourhood; neither is cheap toy money, neither is premium-flagship territory.
They compete for exactly the same rider: city commuter doing somewhere between a handful and a couple of dozen kilometres a day, who wants speed to keep up with bike-lane traffic, enough comfort not to destroy their knees on paving stones, and something compact enough to be tolerated on trains and in small flats.
Design & Build Quality
In your hands, the JOYOR F5S+ feels like an evolution of the classic rental scooter idea: slim, relatively light, and very obviously designed with portability first. The frame is aluminium, the finish is functional rather than exciting, and the overall look is a bit "2018 tech startup", which some will call timeless and others will call dated. Panels fit reasonably well, but you do get the occasional sense that weight and cost saving were sitting at the head of the design meeting.
The ZERO 8, by contrast, looks and feels chunkier. The frame is beefier, the suspension components are more substantial and the folding hardware feels more "tool" than "toy". You notice the extra heft when you pick it up, but you also notice fewer flexy creaks when you push against the bars or bounce on the deck. The styling is unapologetically industrial - exposed springs, visible bolts - and it wears that "I'm here to work" vibe better than the JOYOR, which tries harder to look sleek than it can quite back up.
Ergonomically, both give you a telescopic stem and folding handlebars, which is excellent for shared households and tall riders. The ZERO 8's deck is slightly more generous and feels more like a proper platform than a narrow plank. On the JOYOR you'll find yourself more conscious of foot placement; it's fine for commuting, but on longer rides you start doing that little foot shuffle more often than you'd like.
Overall build impression: the ZERO 8 feels like it could take careless city abuse better - kerb drops, bad roads, the odd heavy-handed friend trying it - whereas the F5S+ feels more like something you treat with a touch more respect if you want it to age gracefully.
Ride Comfort & Handling
This is where the gap between them really opens up.
The JOYOR F5S+ uses a front spring and a twin rear spring setup to tame its small wheels and solid rear tyre. On smooth tarmac it genuinely glides; you get that easy, floating feeling at commuter speeds. As soon as the surface worsens - old paving stones, rough asphalt patches, tram tracks - you start to feel the limits of its small chassis. The suspension keeps it from being punishing, but you're still very aware of the road. After a few kilometres of broken city sidewalks, your ankles and knees know exactly what kind of scooter you're on.
The ZERO 8 leans hard on its suspension advantage. The front spring is decent, but it's the twin hydraulic rear that makes a difference. You can roll over cracks, manhole covers and mild cobbles without automatically bracing. The rear end actually moves instead of just transmitting the impact to your spine. For an 8-inch platform, it's about as close as you get to a "plush" ride. It's still a small-wheel scooter - big potholes remain your enemy - but over typical city abuse it is noticeably less fatiguing.
In corners, both are stable enough for their speed class, but the ZERO 8 inspires more confidence, especially when the road isn't perfect. The JOYOR's lighter chassis and smaller feeling deck encourage a slightly more cautious style; you're more aware that a sudden unexpected bump mid-corner could unsettle things. The ZERO 8 lets you lean a bit more and worry a bit less, though both are held back by that solid rear tyre when things get wet.
Performance
Both scooters use a rear hub motor in broadly the same nominal power category, fed by a 48 V system. On paper, they look almost identical. On the road, their characters diverge slightly.
The JOYOR F5S+ benefits massively from its low weight. From a standstill, it feels eager and light-footed. In city traffic, you can scoot away from lights ahead of most bicycles and rental scooters without effort. Up moderate hills, it keeps chugging, though once the slope gets serious you feel it settling into "working hard" mode rather than "laughing at gravity". If you're a lighter rider, it feels sprightly; if you're closer to the top of its load rating and live in a hilly city, you'll start to sense its limits.
The ZERO 8, despite carrying a couple of extra kilos, hits a bit harder. The controller tuning gives it a slightly stronger shove when you demand full power, particularly in the highest mode. It holds speed more stubbornly on long inclines and feels less strained when pushing near its top end. There's a bit more "fun" in how it builds speed, and if you like to blast short stretches of open bike lane, it puts a wider grin on your face.
Braking on both is handled by a single rear drum plus electronic motor braking. In both cases, stopping power is acceptable rather than impressive. You can stop in time if you're riding defensively; if you're used to dual-disc setups, you'll find yourself planning stops a little earlier and using your legs to shift weight back. The ZERO 8's extra mass doesn't help here: it asks a bit more from essentially the same braking concept. Neither scooter is a braking benchmark, and both would benefit from a front mechanical brake, but the calm drum feel is at least friendly for newer riders.
Battery & Range
Both scooters pair their motors with 48 V batteries in the low-to-mid-teens Ah range. That's the sweet spot for daily commuting: enough to do a decent round trip at sensible speeds without babying the throttle, but not so large that the scooter becomes a lead brick.
The JOYOR F5S+ squeezes surprising range out of its pack, helped by its low weight. Ridden briskly by an average-weight adult, you can expect a genuine workday's worth of riding - out, back, plus a detour - without nervously eyeing the last bar from lunchtime. Push it flat-out all the time and it will, of course, bow out earlier, but in normal mixed use it often overshoots expectations for something this portable.
The ZERO 8 with the larger battery variant basically matches that real-world range. Where it loses a touch in efficiency due to its higher mass and plusher suspension, it claws it back with slightly more capacity. On both, the last portion of the battery brings a noticeable drop in punch; the ZERO holds its composure slightly longer before it starts to feel lethargic.
Charging times are comparable: plug them in at night, wake up to a full tank. Neither is a fast-charging hero, neither is painfully slow. Range anxiety, for the kind of daily distances these scooters are realistically built for, isn't a major issue on either - unless you have a heavy right thumb and a serious hill between you and home.
Portability & Practicality
This is where the JOYOR F5S+ fights back hard.
At around the mid-teens in kilos, the F5S+ is firmly on the "I can carry this without rethinking my life choices" side of the spectrum. Stairs to a third-floor flat? Doable. Short walks through stations with the scooter in one hand and a bag in the other? Not fun, but realistic. When folded, it's pleasingly flat and compact; the folding handlebars reduce poke-out factor, and it genuinely disappears under desks and into small car boots.
The ZERO 8, with its extra couple of kilos, tips over into "you can carry it, but you'll try not to". A single flight of stairs is fine; multiple floors daily quickly becomes a lifestyle decision. It also folds compactly - again, telescopic stem and folding bars work wonders - but the overall package feels denser and a touch more awkward to manoeuvre in tight spaces. The integrated carry handle on the deck does make lifting easier, though, and is one of those simple details you miss immediately on scooters that don't have it.
For multi-modal commuters who regularly mix scooter, train and stairs, the JOYOR clearly has the edge. If you mostly roll from flat to street to office with only the occasional carry, the ZERO's extra weight is a minor annoyance in exchange for the better ride.
Safety
Both scooters make a similar safety bet: one rear drum brake, a mixed tyre setup (air front, solid rear) and basic integrated lighting.
The hybrid tyres are a sensible commuting compromise. On both models, the air-filled front gives you grip and feel where you steer; the solid rear saves you from nightmare motor-wheel puncture repairs. The downside is identical on both: the rear has less grip, particularly on wet painted lines and metal covers. On rainy days, you quickly learn to be gentle with throttle and lean. Neither scooter is a wet-weather king, and both reward smooth, conservative riding when the road shines.
Lighting is another "fine, but..." story. The JOYOR gives you a low-mounted headlight that does a decent job of illuminating the ground directly ahead but doesn't throw far enough for confident fast riding on unlit paths. The ZERO 8's deck-level triple LED cluster looks cool and makes you very visible to others, but again, it sits too low to properly light distant hazards. In both cases, if you plan any real night riding, a good handlebar or helmet-mounted light isn't optional - it's mandatory.
Stability-wise, the ZERO 8's stouter chassis and more sophisticated suspension give it the advantage when the surface gets messy. The JOYOR is stable enough within its speed envelope, but you're more aware that you're on a relatively light frame with small wheels, and you ride accordingly. On both, periodic checks and tightening of the folding hardware are part of responsible ownership; a slightly wobbly stem is more a question of maintenance habit than brand identity.
Community Feedback
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Price & Value
Both scooters sit in almost the same price bracket, and both are regularly hailed as "great value". That's true, with caveats.
The JOYOR F5S+ wins on paper value for commuters obsessed with portability: you get a 48 V system, decent battery, suspension and proper motor in a very light package, at a cost that undercuts many bulkier competitors with weaker specs. Where it saves money, though, you occasionally feel it - in the dated styling, the slightly basic cockpit, and the overall sense that function beat refinement in a few internal meetings.
The ZERO 8 gives you slightly more "serious scooter" for very similar money: better ride comfort, a chunkier chassis and a performance envelope that feels a bit more relaxed at the same pace. The trade is that you pay for it every time you carry it. In terms of what you get per euro if you mostly ride and rarely lift, the ZERO 8 justifies itself very easily. If stairs are part of your daily ritual, the JOYOR's balance sheet suddenly looks more appealing.
Service & Parts Availability
Both brands have decent support ecosystems, but they play in slightly different ways.
JOYOR is fairly well established in Europe, with dealers and parts available through a network of resellers. The F-series has been around long enough that things like controllers, tyres and suspension bits are not exotic, and the scooters are mechanically straightforward. It's all very "spanner and common sense" friendly - no fancy proprietary nonsense, but also not exactly dripping with high-end componentry.
ZERO, thanks to its global popularity and long presence in the performance scene, arguably enjoys even broader parts availability. Between official partners and a very active aftermarket, finding tyres, controllers, stems, displays and all the usual consumables is rarely a problem. Many generic components are shared across models and even brands. DIY-friendly riders appreciate how modifiable and repairable the ZERO 8 is; you can keep one on the road for a long time if you're even slightly handy.
In both cases, buying locally from a serious dealer rather than a random online listing still matters. But if we're splitting hairs, ZERO's ecosystem feels slightly more mature and better documented by the community at this point.
Pros & Cons Summary
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Parameters Comparison
| Parameter | JOYOR F5S+ | ZERO 8 |
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| Motor power (nominal) | 500 W rear hub | 500 W rear hub |
| Motor power (peak) | 650 W (approx.) | ~850 W (approx.) |
| Top speed (unlocked) | ~35-38 km/h | ~40 km/h |
| Battery | 48 V 13 Ah (624 Wh) | 48 V 13 Ah (624 Wh) version compared |
| Claimed range | 40-50 km | Up to 45 km |
| Realistic mixed range | ~30-35 km | ~30-35 km |
| Weight | 16 kg | 18 kg |
| Brakes | Rear drum + regen | Rear drum + regen |
| Suspension | Front spring, dual rear spring | Front spring, dual rear hydraulic |
| Tyres | 8" front pneumatic, 8" rear solid | 8,5" front pneumatic, 8" rear solid |
| Max load | 120 kg | 100 kg |
| IP rating | IP54 (splash resistant) | Not specified / basic splash resistance |
| Charging time | 6-7 h | 5-7 h |
| Price (approx.) | 544 € | 535 € |
Final Verdict - Which Should You Choose?
If your daily routine involves lugging the scooter up more than the occasional flight of stairs, darting in and out of trains, or stashing it in very tight spaces, the JOYOR F5S+ is the one that actually fits your life. It hits a rare sweet spot of usable power, realistic range and genuinely manageable weight. You sacrifice some refinement and comfort, but in exchange you get a scooter that feels more like a slightly heavy briefcase than a compact moped when you have to carry it.
If, however, your priority is how the scooter rides rather than how it feels in your hand, the ZERO 8 is simply the more satisfying machine. The suspension is kinder, the frame feels more solid, the acceleration a touch more enthusiastic. Day after day, on rough city surfaces, it keeps you less tired and more confident, provided you're not spending half your time hauling it up stairwells.
So: frequent carrier, small-flats, multi-modal warrior? Lean JOYOR F5S+. Primarily a rider, only an occasional lifter, who wants their commute to feel less like survival and more like a small daily treat? The ZERO 8 is the better long-term companion - quirks, rattles and all.
Numbers Freaks Corner
| Metric | JOYOR F5S+ | ZERO 8 |
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| Price per Wh (€/Wh) | ❌ 0,87 €/Wh | ✅ 0,86 €/Wh |
| Price per km/h of top speed (€/km/h) | ❌ 14,32 €/km/h | ✅ 13,38 €/km/h |
| Weight per Wh (g/Wh) | ✅ 25,64 g/Wh | ❌ 28,85 g/Wh |
| Weight per km/h (kg/km/h) | ✅ 0,42 kg/km/h | ❌ 0,45 kg/km/h |
| Price per km of real-world range (€/km) | ❌ 15,54 €/km | ✅ 15,29 €/km |
| Weight per km of real-world range (kg/km) | ✅ 0,46 kg/km | ❌ 0,51 kg/km |
| Wh per km efficiency (Wh/km) | ✅ 17,83 Wh/km | ✅ 17,83 Wh/km |
| Power to max speed ratio (W/km/h) | ❌ 17,11 W/(km/h) | ✅ 21,25 W/(km/h) |
| Weight to power ratio (kg/W) | ✅ 0,032 kg/W | ❌ 0,036 kg/W |
| Average charging speed (W) | ❌ 96,0 W | ✅ 104,0 W |
These metrics translate your money, speed, battery and weight into hard ratios. Price-per-Wh and price-per-km/h show how much you pay for energy capacity and top speed. Weight-per-Wh and weight-per-km/h indicate how effectively each scooter turns weight into usable performance. Wh-per-km hints at efficiency on the road, while the power-to-speed and weight-to-power ratios speak to how "strong" each scooter feels for its size. Average charging speed simply reflects how quickly the charger can refill the battery.
Author's Category Battle
| Category | JOYOR F5S+ | ZERO 8 |
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| Weight | ✅ Noticeably lighter to carry | ❌ Heavier, borderline portable |
| Range | ✅ Slight edge for light riders | ✅ Matches in real use |
| Max Speed | ❌ Slightly lower ceiling | ✅ Higher top-end potential |
| Power | ❌ Feels near its limits | ✅ Stronger punch, more headroom |
| Battery Size | ✅ Same size, less weight | ✅ Same size, more grunt |
| Suspension | ❌ Basic, works but busy | ✅ Much plusher hydraulics |
| Design | ❌ Feels a bit dated | ✅ Industrial, purpose-built look |
| Safety | ❌ Lighter, more skittish | ✅ More stable, planted |
| Practicality | ✅ Better for stairs, trains | ❌ Less friendly to carry |
| Comfort | ❌ Acceptable, but firm | ✅ Clearly more comfortable |
| Features | ❌ Basic commuter spec | ✅ Nicer suspension, lights |
| Serviceability | ✅ Simple, easy to wrench | ✅ Huge community and parts |
| Customer Support | ✅ Decent EU-focused network | ✅ Wide global partner base |
| Fun Factor | ❌ Functional, not thrilling | ✅ More grin per throttle |
| Build Quality | ❌ Functional but feels lighter | ✅ Chunkier, more solid feel |
| Component Quality | ❌ Adequate, cost-conscious | ✅ Slightly higher-grade feel |
| Brand Name | ❌ Solid but lower profile | ✅ Strong enthusiast reputation |
| Community | ❌ Smaller, less vocal | ✅ Huge, very active |
| Lights (visibility) | ❌ Basic "I exist" lights | ✅ More eye-catching LEDs |
| Lights (illumination) | ❌ Too low, too weak | ❌ Also too low-mounted |
| Acceleration | ❌ Quick, but modest | ✅ Sharper, more eager |
| Arrive with smile factor | ❌ Gets job done | ✅ Makes commute genuinely fun |
| Arrive relaxed factor | ❌ Harsher on bad roads | ✅ Suspension saves your joints |
| Charging speed | ❌ Slightly slower refill | ✅ Marginally faster charge |
| Reliability | ✅ Simple, proven platform | ✅ Very proven workhorse |
| Folded practicality | ✅ Smaller, easier to stow | ❌ Denser, more awkward |
| Ease of transport | ✅ Clear winner for carrying | ❌ Fine, but you'll swear |
| Handling | ❌ Twitchier on rough surfaces | ✅ More confidence inspiring |
| Braking performance | ❌ Adequate, nothing more | ❌ Same story, no better |
| Riding position | ❌ Narrower deck, more shuffle | ✅ Roomier, more natural |
| Handlebar quality | ❌ Can rattle over time | ✅ Feels a bit sturdier |
| Throttle response | ❌ Functional but unexciting | ✅ Sharper without being harsh |
| Dashboard / Display | ❌ Harder to read in sun | ✅ Common, clear QS-style |
| Security (locking) | ✅ Light, easy to bring in | ✅ Common form, easy to lock |
| Weather protection | ✅ IP54 at least documented | ❌ More "hope, not spec" |
| Resale value | ❌ Loses appeal quicker | ✅ Holds demand in used market |
| Tuning potential | ❌ Less mod ecosystem | ✅ Heaps of mods, guides |
| Ease of maintenance | ✅ Simple, straightforward layout | ✅ Standardised parts, many guides |
| Value for Money | ❌ Good, but more compromises | ✅ Better ride per euro |
Overall Winner Declaration
In the Numbers Freaks Corner, the JOYOR F5S+ scores 5 points against the ZERO 8's 6. In the Author's Category Battle, the JOYOR F5S+ gets 12 ✅ versus 32 ✅ for ZERO 8 (with a few ties sprinkled in).
Totals: JOYOR F5S+ scores 17, ZERO 8 scores 38.
Based on the scoring, the ZERO 8 is our overall winner. Between these two, the ZERO 8 simply feels like the more complete scooter once you're actually riding, with a calmer, more cushioned character that makes daily commutes feel less like endurance tests and more like small guilty pleasures. The JOYOR F5S+ fights hard with its lighter weight and impressive efficiency, but the compromises in comfort and overall solidity keep it squarely in the "clever commuter tool" category rather than something you look forward to riding. If you want your scooter mainly to disappear into your life and your hallway, the JOYOR makes sense. If you want it to improve your day every time you step on the deck, the ZERO 8 is the one that keeps calling you back.
That's our verdict when we try to stay objective – but hey, riding is mostly about emotions anyway, so pick the one that will make you look forward to your commute every single day.

